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Thu, 12/16/2010 - 18:16

I've just booked my solo trip with Exodus. Couldn't decide between The Inca Trail and Base Camp. I think i made the right decision. Off on the 23rd September '11. It would be good to discuss plans with others, especially packing and clothing options. I've done hot weather treks before but this is the first trek where i have to combat the cold.

Stephen

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 19:34

Hello Dave. Welcome.

We've all been learning as we go. There's been a few good tips on here, maybe you can pick a few up. If you have any to share or any ideas they'll also be more than appreciated. As i'm sure you've read there are a few of us that are flying by the seat of our pants here. So even any basic travel advice will be good. I like the moist baby wipes thing, great tip. Also if you get the refill pack it will save on weight.

Kerry, i think i've solved my pillow problem. Might work for you too. Stuffed a fleece, my down jacket and a couple of t-shirts in my sleeping bag stuff sac. Worked a treat while camping, can't understand why i haven't thought of it before. Saves on packing as it's all stuff i'll be carrying anyway.

 Hope everyone's well

 Stephen 

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 19:34

Hello Dave. Welcome.

We've all been learning as we go. There's been a few good tips on here, maybe you can pick a few up. If you have any to share or any ideas they'll also be more than appreciated. As i'm sure you've read there are a few of us that are flying by the seat of our pants here. So even any basic travel advice will be good. I like the moist baby wipes thing, great tip. Also if you get the refill pack it will save on weight.

Kerry, i think i've solved my pillow problem. Might work for you too. Stuffed a fleece, my down jacket and a couple of t-shirts in my sleeping bag stuff sac. Worked a treat while camping, can't understand why i haven't thought of it before. Saves on packing as it's all stuff i'll be carrying anyway.

 Hope everyone's well

 Stephen 

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 19:38

Sorry about that.....computer decided to freeze on me. I just kept clicking stuff.

Anonymous
Mon, 08/08/2011 - 21:17

Had an interesting time in Snowdonia. Did Snowdon (Pyg track) on Saturday, had horrendous torrential rain, "waterproof" jacket proved not to be, and to top it all my back died about 3/4 up. On the bright side I did make it to the top, albeit in lots of pain and hobbling like an old lady, and my knees were fine (am liking my Lekis). On the down side I had to abandon the descent and take the train down! And seriously stressing about my back! Having behaved themselves all weekend I'm now having stabbing pains in my right hip... I presume I've trapped something in my back.... so another visit to the physio beckons.

I'm getting very frustrated, I know I need to "rest" but on the other hand if I do nothing I don't know how much my back can cope with. I'm trying to console myself with the fact that the ascent on Snowdon, especially Pyg track, is more steep than we'll be doing in a normal day's trekking to EBC, and on Sunday it felt fine (am ignoring today's pain which is worse when I sit down)

Moan over... I was very pleased that my fear of heights didn't bother me at all on Snowdon, even my boyfriend was surprised. So my plan is to get back to the physio on Thursday, and then back to Wales next weekend.... although I WILL be buying a new waterproof jacket and trews this week! I have 6 weeks to recover, and WILL be raring to go. Mind over matter!

Hope everyone is well, and having more luck training than I am!

Kx

Tue, 08/09/2011 - 17:58

Sounds like a rest and a  trip to the physio is definitely on the cards Kerry. Try not to get too frustrated. The stress and tension won't help you heal. I think the Buddhist teachings will do you some good right now. Might be a good time to get in a bit of practice. The hippy in me is coming out the closer we get.

I think i might drive out to Snowdon again the weekend after next for a couple of nights. Get another couple of consecutive hiking days in (20th-21st). If anyone fancies a pre-trek hike up Snowdon you're more than welcome to join me. I'll be camping just north of the Rhydd Ddu Path but i'll take on any route.

Stephen 

Anonymous
Wed, 08/10/2011 - 14:15

Kerry, don't stress too much - I'm sure you will be fine by the end of September. You still have 6 weeks to be in tip top form!

Nikki, good news! The kit bag is actually quite big. The problem now is to keep everything under 12kg - that might be a challenge in itself....

Dave, welcome! 

Anonymous
Thu, 08/11/2011 - 22:00

Hi All.  Sorry to hear about your back Kerry. Have you seen your physio yet?  If it's not too late ask him/her about come core stability exercises.  He/she may be able to recommend some strenghtening exercises for your core (abs) which will help support your back and ease the pressure/tension you are feeling there, and with 5-6 weeks to go you have enough time to work on this.

I've got a couple of kit bags from previous Exodus trips and they really do hold a lot of stuff (and it's easy to over pack).  They are good bags and very strong, although 1 down side is that that don't have a shoulder strap and carrying a full bag with the handles can be awkward.

I've still not go round to preparing much for this trip yet.  All my focus is on the 2 (I've added another) half distance triathlons which I've got in the next 3 weeks.  Training has gone pretty well which should put me in good stead for EBC too and I'm now on taper preparing for the 1st race.  It's kind of exciting but also a scary prospect too.  Just hoping everything is OK on the day!

Hope everyone's OK and preparations are going well

 G

 

Anonymous
Thu, 08/11/2011 - 22:10

Headed back down the physio today... looks like a couple of vertebrae are pinching a nerve, which explains all the pain. My physio was upbeat and thinks they can ease things in time for the trip... so I'm happier today :-) I can still train, but got to go backpack-less for a couple of weeks. And training is going to hurt! I may be popping pills though, but heigh ho, it'll be worth it.

I'm also feeling much less stressed about my fitness and missing training... I have done a lot up to now, and am sure I'll settle into things quite quickly.

So now... back to shopping :-) Off to Wales again this weekend, so no buying this weekend, but making my list for next weekend! Sleeping bag... waterproofs... microfleece... thermals.... water bottles... water purification tablets.... another pair of trews... camera.... the list goes on!!!!!

6 weeks to go!!!!

I hope everyone is well :-) Natacha, glad the kit bag is large... I imagine I'll be packing and repacking lots!

And welcome Dave :-)

Kx

Anonymous
Fri, 08/12/2011 - 12:13

What are you guys doing with regards to water? I know that purification tablets are probably the easier and cheaper option but I don't particularly fancy drinking chlorine for 2 weeks... any thoughts? 

Anonymous
Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:48

Natacha, I was thinking that too. I think I'm going to take the tablets... but probably rely on boiled water. A guy at work trekked the Annapurna circuit and bought a water purifiying gizmo... but it broke early on, and was heavy to carry around. So I'm not going down that route!

I was also going to try to find some flavour sachets of some description... to try and take the nasty taste away. Thought if I could find anything that was also energy providing then I'd be killing two birds with one stone :-)

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:30

You can buy bottled water virtually all the way along the trek.

Anonymous
Fri, 08/12/2011 - 17:11

I think i would rather stay away from bottled water for eco reasons but I like the way you're thinking Kerry! I shall investigate this weekend.

Happy training all! 

Anonymous
Sat, 08/13/2011 - 16:15

Hi Everyone, 

I took the last spot on the trip this week. It seems like we have a great mix of people/ages. It was a bit of a last minute decision so am now doing my best to get fitness levels up. I go to the gym a bit but have never really done any serious hiking so am a bit nervous about it. I am so determined to push myself though, just hope the altitude sickness doesnt get me too bad. Spent the morning in Cotswold shop buying boots and some "technical garments". Seems like there is lots to buy! Anyone have any experience of the rented equipment mentioned in the trip notes? 

 Ed 

Anonymous
Sat, 08/13/2011 - 17:13

And welcome!

I hired/rented a sleeping bag from Exodus last year when I did their Kili trip.  It was of vrey good quality and there's also the added bonus of reducing weight/packing space for the flight.

 

Guy

Anonymous
Sat, 08/13/2011 - 17:40

Not very often. we had no rain but we did have a little bit of snow of two occasions. Your weather could of course be completely different. I would plan for the worse case and take a decent waterproof jacket.

My daypack was 35 litres and that was plenty big enough, you won't need 45.

I would also recommend the boiled water, I used mostly boiled with just the odd bottle of water and had no problems.

Anonymous
Sat, 08/13/2011 - 19:57

I will follow that up with Exodus this week.... It's so great to read all the supportive comments on here, makes me feel much more confident about the challenges ahead!

Ed 

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 17:24

Welcome Ed. Hope you're well and just as excited, scared and apprehensive as the rest of us. Also hope you're out breaking those new boots in.

I bought a 'Steripen' a few weeks ago to purify water. I was a little unsure about it as it seems a little like voodoo to me so i've taken it for a couple of test runs on recent hikes. Drank half a litre of relatively clean looking stream water and half a litre of a dubious looking green waterfall out in the peaks with no ill effects. It's a little scary at first to rely on the technology but i don't think i'll be leaving for the countryside without it in future. I'll be taking some backup Chlorine Dioxide with me too. I've had a recommendation of 'High5' electrolyte tablets for water if the taste of chlorine is a problem. I'll be buying a few to test while training and hiking in the coming weeks, i'll let you know.

Take care all

Stephen 

 

Anonymous
Mon, 08/15/2011 - 09:11

Welcome Ed!

Stephen, that sounds good - let em know how you get on. I didn't really like the idea of drining "swimming pool" water for 2 weeks....

Kerry, how is your back?? 

Anonymous
Mon, 08/15/2011 - 22:58

And Stephen, that "High5" sounds just what I was thinking of... let us know how it tastes!

Natacha, it's not great, but still hopeful! Did an 8 mile hike, with decent ascent, on Saturday. My back was ok until about 3 hours in, and then cramped up, but not as bad as on Snowdon. However, yesterday I could hardly walk, so couldn't do another hike as planned :-( But back at the physio Thursday, so keeping the faith that they can fix me. And carrying on with the training.... although having a break this weekend as off to V festival on Friday... so will be trying out my yet to be purchased sleeping bag :-)

I hope everyone is well... only 5 weeks to go!

Kx

Anonymous
Tue, 08/16/2011 - 10:21

Hi all, I’m on this trip in Sep, and I’ve been reading your comments and suggestions, some good tips. I have a question, as we are at height, water will boil at a lower temp, around 93oC at 2000m, will this kill off everything, or do we still need to use purifying tabs?

Cheers Mark.

Anonymous
Tue, 08/16/2011 - 13:03

Hi people, Not long now. Just need to get camel pack and walking poles and im all set. Im also going to v fest (weston park) followed by reading festival wknd after so will not be doing much training over next few wks, ooops. However, I am doing the 3 peaks challenge start of sept.

 really starting to look foreward to this now, chris

Anonymous
Tue, 08/16/2011 - 15:44

Hi Mark,

Good point about the water boiling at a lower temperature, but I used pretty much just boiled water with no tablets and did not have any issues.

Anonymous
Tue, 08/16/2011 - 15:44

Hi Mark,

Good point about the water boiling at a lower temperature, but I used pretty much just boiled water with no tablets and did not have any issues.

Anonymous
Tue, 08/16/2011 - 22:37

Its great to read all your tips etc! Yeah I am so excited! I have a day off tomorow to put my new boots through their paces, they seem pretty light and comfy so hopefull wont give me too much jip! Also struck lucky with my new housemates who seem to have supplies of trekking equipment coming out of their ears! Result! 

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 16:50

Water only needs to get to about 70 degrees to kill the bacteria etc so you can rely on the boiled water but I would take chlorine tablets with you too, as in general you can only be sure of getting boiled water at the evening stop, and you may not want to carry too mucg dead weight

Anonymous
Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:11

Just been reading through all your comments from the last 10 days or so, sounds like most of us are logged into this now. I am just back in work today after my trip to the French Alps - fab few days and it was quite cheap to as it was organised Adventure Training through work!! Hard few days but i was knackered with all the uphill and we only went up to about 3000m (exremely steep all the way though)coming down was great though, especially on the mountain bike.
It has made me realise that i take too much kit away with me and most of it stays in my bag. Going to try and be harsh with myself for out trip (thats the theory anyway). So i am going to try and not buy too much more new kit and try and use the stuff i already have. The gym are also lending me a pair of Leki walking poles aswell so that will save me a bit of money.

Kerry i hope that your back is getting strong again, a bit at a time, but i bet it is driving you nuts.

Hope everybody else is well

Nikki

Anonymous
Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:16

Hi All,

Meant to say i already use Zero High 5 (low cal for sugar) when i go to the gym, there a a few flavours and one with no flavor, i find i drink them much quicker than water alone - so will be taking some with me and as they are tablets its really simple.

Nikki

Mon, 08/22/2011 - 17:34

Hello all, hope you're all well. I've used these tablets now while training at the gym and i find them really good. Taste is good but fairly weak. Nowhere near strong enough to mask the taste of chlorine though, if that was your intention. They kept me feeling hydrated and less tired so i could push a bit more. They're not an energy source but the caffeine version gave a little kick.

There's a thought. What's the coffee situation like in Nepal? If there is 'no' coffee i'm afraid i'll be needing an extra kilo allowance in my luggage. Either that or something very useful and important may have to be left behind......fleece, waterproof or maybe even a boot! I can hop as long as i have coffee!

Anonymous
Mon, 08/22/2011 - 18:05

I hear you Stephen, I am a real coffee addict myself! Although not sure coffee + altitude is a great combo...

Less than 5 weeks, I CAN NOT WAIT!!!! I think my friends can not wait either... At this stage, I have bored to death everyone I know and I am quickly running out of people to talk to :-) 

Guy, how did your triathlon go last weekend?? 

Mon, 08/22/2011 - 19:38

I dread to think how many times i've heard the response 'Oh right' and 'yeah i suppose' over the last few months from friends and family when talking about this trip.

I think i'm pretty well organised now. Just a couple of last minute decisions to make when i get my hands on the kit bag. Other than packing and weight issues i'm ready to go. Fitness level is where it's at....if it's not enough i'll have to i'll crawl up to base camp, nothing will stop me. I've just noticed...i started this forum page on the 16th December 2010. I can't believe i've been obsessing for so long. I'll have no idea what to do with myself after this trip......other than plan another adventure.

Looking forward to meeting you all.

Stephen 

Anonymous
Mon, 08/22/2011 - 20:11

Hi Natacha,  the tri went really well thank you.  I was hoping tio finish in under 5 1/2 hours and flopped over the line in 5:27.  Would have taken that at the start, but after a good swim and great bike leg I was well ahead of schedule.  Unfortunately I died on my arse on the run, so maybe not as qiuck as I could have been.  Still it was a good experience and lessons to learn for the next time.  I have one more 1/2 half ironman distance race to do "for fun" in a couple of weeks and then fully focussing on EBC.

I've been reading about the hydration thing with interest.  My experience on kili last year was that you drink nothing but tea and water for 8-9 days which gets really dull and you start craving something with taste and flavour.  I tried Nuun hydration tablets then and TBH they were bloody awful- but that may have been more to do with my loss of appetite with AMS.  I've got some samples of High 5Zero tabs so will try them in the next few days.  Anyone given any thought to energy snacks for the trek?

Mon, 08/22/2011 - 20:32

As far as energy snacks are concerned, i'm looking at what i normally take out hiking with me. Beef Jerky, pepperami, flapjack, nuts and raisins. I'm not taking anything more adventurous......actually after a conversation this weekend, i may take a scaled down jar of Marmite and more than likely a bottle of Tabasco.

Anonymous
Tue, 08/23/2011 - 08:21

Well done on your event Guy, that is pretty impressive - i did a 26 mile bike ride on Sunday and couldnt walk properly when i got off!!

On the snack front i always take along some jelly babies and haribo's - its the big kid in me i think!!

Just want the trip to come now as much as looking forward to it i am now gettiing a bit nervous that i am not prepped enough and have all the correct kit.

Anonymous
Tue, 08/23/2011 - 08:39

Well done Guy!! It sounds like you will def be the fittest of us all!!

I have up the tempo myself too - I did my last trek on Sunday at a nearly running pace. I had to pay the price yesterday but it was quite exhilarating all the same!! 

Nikki, I might hang around with you if you bring Haribos!!! 

Anonymous
Wed, 08/24/2011 - 13:45

Glad your tri went well Guy, really pleased you achieved your time! And everyone else sounds like they're moving their training up a notch, you'll be sprinting to base camp at this rate.

Unfortunately my back is still not good, and I'm in quite a lot of pain, and the anti-inflammatories aren't really helping. It's looking more and more likely that I'm going to have to cancel :-( To say I'm upset is an understatement, but trying to look forward to being able to do it another time when I'm fighting fit. I wouldn't want to be a misery on the trek, and pill-popping to get through will be no fun.

One more week of healing time before I make a final decision... will keep reading all your posts in the meantime, and fingers crossed for a miracle!

 

Kx

 

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 20:53

I hope you're going to be well enough for the trip Kerry. It would be such a shame to lose you so close. Rest and see what your physio says. Still a whole month to recover. Well i've got my fingers crossed for you. Take care and rest.

 

Anonymous
Wed, 08/24/2011 - 22:44

Kerry - just do what your physio advises & REST!  Don't overtrain - folk in their 60s and 70s do this trip!  It will be scaled for the rather less fit and you absolutely mustn't cancel.  Give your back a chance to recover and you'll come back fighting fit - your determination to make base camp WILL get you there :)  You'll probably be the one who suffers least from all the AMS & Khumbu dry throat - which no amount of triathlon & Warrior nonsense can prepare you for.  One foot in front of the other is all you'll need and you'll be at base campt before you know it x

Chill for now & concentrate on checking your kit list x

Pamela

Anonymous
Thu, 08/25/2011 - 08:28

Kerry,

You have to be good and do as you are told as hard and frustrating as it must be. Bet it is driving you mad. I work with a guy who did the Everest thing a couple of years ago and he assures me that the pace is not fast they take you up slowly to get use to the altitude and go at the pace of the slowest in te group with many stops to take plenty of photos!! Keep us informed how yo are doing.
Hope everybody else is doing okay :-)

Anonymous
Thu, 08/25/2011 - 09:54

Good post Nikki, spot on. The pace is slow, its not a race, just keep plodding along. Rest, rest rest Kerry and hopefully you will recover in time.

Anonymous
Thu, 08/25/2011 - 09:58

Guys, just thought of another tip to share. If any of you suffer with a runny nose whilst walking in cold weather get your doctor to prescribe some Rinatec nasal spray. Works a treat. During my training walks in the UK in Jan / Feb my nose used to run heavily due to the cold, but a couple of sprays of Rinatec and it completed stopped it. Great stuff.

Mon, 08/29/2011 - 20:43

Hello all.

Hope you're all well and had a good bank holiday. Hope you're resting Kerry.

I've been camping at Snowdon again this weekend. I'm starting to get really familiar with the routes. Did my good samaritan thing and guided a couple of young unprepared lads off the mountain and took them to the nearest village. Dressed in trainers and tracksuits, couldn't see 2 feet in front of your face. They were stuck on the south ridge, idiots. Freezing winds and horizontal rain, really dramatic up there in bad weather, loved it.

It gave my waterproofs and layering options a good test. I think i may have got every eventuality covered and able to carry them easily. Had a bit of a niggle from my right knee on descents so i'm taking it a little easier from now until the trip. Sticking to swimming and low impact stuff.

Good runny nose tip there Nigel. Is Rinatec prescription only? I suffer a little, never knew there was such a thing to stop it. Sounds interesting.

See you all soon

Stephen 

Anonymous
Mon, 08/29/2011 - 23:10

Hi Stephen, yes I believe it is prescription only. I also did not realise there was such a thing until I googled "why does my nose run when it's cold".

Anonymous
Tue, 08/30/2011 - 08:54

Hi All,

Stephen sounds like you are doing well with your hill training - good stuff.

How you feeling Kerry? Hope you are improving. Hope that everybody else is doing okay and managing to get some sort of fitness in!!

My chances of getting out on the hills are pretty minimal now as i have just been told i am promoted with work and have to relocate from the North of Scotland to a new job just North of London on 10 October!!!! I have explained that i will still be away on our trip and have got some extra days leave but only have a few days to get sorted when i get back - hense trying to get lots sorted before we go. So just sticking to circuits, running, spinning and biking until we go.

Look forward to meeting you all soon

Nikki

Tue, 08/30/2011 - 17:24

Promotion, big move and big trip.....going to be a busy couple of months for you Nikki. Congratulations.

Received my kit bag today. I haven't tried packing it yet but it looks fairly huge to me. I'm a minimal packer anyway so i can imagine loads of spare room for snacks and sweets. I'll give it a true practice pack sometime this week, see how much weight and space i have to spare. I'll probably set myself a little 'Tuck Shop' up at base camp.

Anonymous
Tue, 08/30/2011 - 21:28

Congratulations Nikki.

My kit bag has arrived and has been put to good use for all my camping gear for my triathlon races. I have 1 more 1/2 iron man distance race to do this weekend and then my season is over and I can focus on EBC.  Had a rummage about in my other Exodus bag and have found my trekking kit so all sorted there.  

One thing I haven't sorted yet is insurance.  I've not gone with Exodus as their policies tend to more expensive.  Last time I went with the British Mountaineering Council as they had a great offer on with membership, but can't get that again this time.  Does anyone have any recommendations?

Hope you're feeling better Kerry.

Anonymous
Tue, 08/30/2011 - 23:02

Good point Guy. My Bupa Travel policy that I get through work only covered me to 5,000m. I had to write to them and get them to agree to increase that to 5,500m for Kala Patthar. Read the fine print everybody.

Anonymous
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 21:29

Hi Guys!

I was just about to send a post in here to the guys I am on a trip with and saw this conversation....I'm not on your trip but did it a few years back and I just want to say I hope you all have an amazing time! If you have Prem as your leader, he is awesome! We had a fantastic time and really bonded as a group. A few hints....on the final day into base camp it was really cold and lots of peoples water pipes froze up on their camelpacks so maybe in case, take a bottle on your bag, wrapped in a jumper or something as you do need your fluids! Also, I love my chocolate and craved it badly, esp as we got higher....choc is expensive, I remember paying around £2.50 for a mars bar at one point so if you like a bit of a booster maybe buy some before you go? Stick some throat lozengers in your bag in case you get 'Kumbu cough' just caused by the dry and cold, dusty air....it hurts though so maybe a good call. You will have an fantastic time, try the different versions of 'apple pie' at each tea house!!!!! Just go slow enjoy the views and work together.

I'm jealous! Have fun and take care....hope you don't mind me butting in on your conversation!!!!?????

 

Shannon :-)

Anonymous
Sun, 09/04/2011 - 10:43

Richard W-B

Sun, 09/04/2011 - 20:16

Hello Shannon

I'm sure no-one minds you butting in. Experience counts for everything as far as i'm concerned. Lozenges sound a good idea, especially those numbing antiseptic Strepsils. Thanks for the tip....keep them coming. I have a couple of Buffs that i'll be taking to try and avoid Khumbu cough. If not i'll be prepared. Apple pie varieties sound interesting. Can't wait. Just over 2 weeks people.

Anonymous
Tue, 09/06/2011 - 11:05

Hi Shannon,

Thanks for the advice - the more the better and i am sure that everybody else feels the same way too. The time is getting closer now and i dont know if i am getting excited or nervous (or a bit of both!!) now that the time is closing in. I have recieved my kit bag but havent had a practice pack yet - i will have to be so strict with not taking too much!! All advice is good, dont want to take too much but i do feel the cold.

Hows everybody else feeling?

Kerry - hows the back? Hope you are much better and feel confident about the trip :-)

I am liking the sound of the apple pie at our stops along the way very welcoming.

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