Everest Base camp 3rd November

Solo traveller setting off for Everest base camp November 3rd - who is with me

I with you anyone else joining us?

Only a few months away now 👍

Super excited, soon come around, need to get some essentials :)

Have you done this type of trip before

Super excited, soon come around, need to get some essentials :)

Have you done this type of trip before

Never did anything like this before, been up the mountains in the UK many times but nothing of this height and scale and time.. how about you? 

 

 

Me either, its a whole new experience on height/time/scale and travelling solo but cannot wait. looking forward to meeting our group, hopefully more DL joiners soon. 

Me either, its a whole new experience on height/time/scale and travelling solo but cannot wait. looking forward to meeting our group, hopefully more DL joiners soon. 

Hi guys, this should be quite an experience - can't wait to go. I've been on the Inca trail trek and the high Atlas winter climb. Frist time above 5000m though. I'd better keep getting those miles in at the weekend

Group slowly taking shape, glad someone with some trekking experience is around ha.  Been up and down Snowdon training this year multiple times and back to back. Legs feel good... Just need to up my fitness 

CAN'T WAIT 

Are the Brecon Beacons any good for long days out in the hills? I'm lucky enough to have the Lakes on my doorstep - usually out walking or MTB at the weekend. Very excited about the trip now; a few more injections and the odd bit of kit to pick up. I'm flying out of Manchester to Abu Dhabi, then onto Kathmandu - what route are you guys taking?

 

Flying from London Heathrow onto dehli then Kathmandu. Not sure if anyone else is on that path? 

The Brecons are great for long days and some wild camping. You can spend days exploring off the beaten track.

I was up the lake District training last month up and down scafell pike, such an amazing place.

Out of curiosity what injections are you having? On the site it says that none are mandatory are they? 

 

Its quite a list - I popped along to Boots, usually use Masta travel however the nearest is Preston (to me). 

DTP (Diphtheria, Tetanus, Polio)

Japanese encephailitis 

Rabies

Typhoid

Cholera

Hep A, Hep B

 

https://travelhealthpro.org.uk/country/159/nepal#Vaccine_recommendations

 

 

Its quite a list - I popped along to Boots, usually use Masta travel however the nearest is Preston (to me). 

DTP (Diphtheria, Tetanus, Polio)

Japanese encephailitis 

Rabies

Typhoid

Cholera

Hep A, Hep B

 

https://travelhealthpro.org.uk/country/159/nepal#Vaccine_recommendations

 

 

Haha oh yeah that's a massive list.  

I better get on that them, these are as a precaution tho yeah!? Not mandatory.

Hearing that I will get it all done just incase.

 

If anyone is on Twitter and wishes to discuss the trip add me on 

@rickywilts

100% precaution. Biggest risk is eating or drinking something that will turn your stomach, hygiene around toilets etc 

 

Thanks for the advice, taking it all in. Take what I can, appreciate it 

Thanks for the advice, taking it all in. Take what I can, appreciate it 

Some travel advice if you haven't been before.

I suggest going to your doctor / travel nurse on the NHS and getting all the free ones. Japanese encephailitis, Rabies, and Cholera are all optional, and pretty expensive to pay for yourself. That said, rabies is almost always fatal untreated and the shot is just to buy time to get treated after a bite.

Take and use alcohol-based hand sanitiser.

Read up on acetazolamide (Diamox) too in case you decide to take that to help acclimatise. The guide may well suggest it for base camp. It's quite common to take it if you're not allergic to that sort of drug. You can buy it in Thamel over the counter for a couple of quid.

You need to think about what to do about water when you're on trek too. Buying bottled water is not good, and it's pretty expensive higher up too. Search Amazon for "NEW 2017 Travel Tap 'Flip Spout ' 800ml pure water filter bottle - 1600 litres" and "Steri Pen Adventurer Opti UV Handheld Water Purifier" for options. I can recommend the filter bottle.

Thanks, I was looking at the steripen. But if the water bottle is recommended I'll definitely buy that. Thanks for the heads up and advice, totally all new to me this whole experience. 

I made contact with my GP and will be paying them a visit to have the shots for sure !

Hi. There's pros and cons of each. With the Steripen, you need a wide-necked water bottle and a physical filter but you can decant the water into a camelbak if you're used to those, or add one of those flavoured vitamin C tablets afterwards. With the filter bottle, you only get a pint of water at a time and probably need a flexibag to carry a spare litre to top up between villages. You also need to stop to drink out of it.

i was advised I wouldn't need Japanese encephalitis jab, due to us being in area where Mosquitos do not survive due to altitude, should I rethink this? Also not having Rabies or cholera, that's from Travel clinic advise, now got me rethinking it all.

friends did this trip last October, getting tips from them too. They did buy bottled water to begin with but then changed mid way, as it became a hassle too, also wanted to consider the environment disposing of plastic bottle. Used tablets to sterilise water and also added flavouring to the water, as drinking so much of it, took the edge off drinking so much. 

i have a hydration pack in my backpack, so I don't need to stop to drink.

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I've opted for a bit of a 'belt and braces' approach; jabs for everything. Figured that the time in Kathmandu might warrant lower altitude jabs....I guess I'd rather have them and not need them than the other way around. 

Drinking wise I think that I'm opting for a Steripen and I might take one or two of those small bottles of Robinsons 'Squash'D' to add a bit of flavour. From experience if I don't need to sterilise with tablets the water tastes nice - always hoping to blag a bottle of boiled water at night in the huts and stick it in my sleeping bag as a hot water bottle and start the day with a full bottle of drinking water. I’ve stopped using a camelbak in the UK unless I’m biking or running – prefer to stop, drink from the bottle and take in the views. Curious however – where did your friends source the water from? Was it from a river or from the stops at lunch/ evening etc?

What did your friends make of the trip?

Did any of your friends take fancy camera equipment? I’d really like to take the SLR, I’m thinking it’s a bit heavy and bulky to carry around. 

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Hi Cheryl. I travel a lot so I have pretty much everything ticked off anyway. I think most people just follow the advice on the NHS FitForTravel site for Nepal i.e. covered for Diphtheria, Hepatitis A, Tetanus, Typhoid. It's a personal decision based on attitude to risk, of course. I think the risk for those three is very small, and the jabs are pretty expensive to buy privately. The typical ones should be free through the NHS.

If you're going to use water purification tablets then bear in mind that it can be pretty cold up there when the sun goes down so it takes longer for cold water to purify. I tried using iodine drops years ago in a camelbak but I couldn't bear the taste so I reverted to the filter approach.

Hi Chris.  If you're flying up to Lukla then there's a pretty low weight limit on bags which really restricts your options on what to take. We had the option of paying a couple of quid each extra as a number of bags were over the limit. I'm not sure you can rely on that though. I took a Nikon S9900 which did the job well enough (see the photos in my profile). I am glad I didn't bother with a full DSLR now for weight and faff reasons.

If you haven't been to the Everest region before then you might be surprised just how busy and 'developed' it is up there. There's (slow) WiFi in most lodges, and phone battery charging. Everything gets more expensive as you ascend. I was last up there in 2001 and it came as a bit of a shock last year. It was still a very good trip despite the changes.

Regarding water, we got it from the lodges where we stopped for breaks. Never from a river. In the Annapurnas years ago, all the villages used to have a communal tap in the centre but I didn't really notice on the way to base camp. You will be able to get free boiled water in the evening from the overnight lodge.

kind of what I fuigured drinking wise, also point and click is where my mind is at the moment. Tech has moved on a lot and good images available without the fuss and cold weather eating power hungry SLR batteries. I was going on this trip years ago but had to postpone for work reasons - I would have loved ot have seen the place pre-tech. I'm planning on leaving the phone at home where it belongs. 

 

Some great advise there DJ - Friends got water from lunch/evening stops lodges etc, used drops, will ask which but they said there was no after taste. The took a SLR camera, he had a special brace/strap for it but me it's point click, I have Olympus Tough, I use for scuba diving, great pics and I can drop it 😂 It also pretty good in extreme cold conditions, well under water anyways.

 

Hi Ricky, Cheryl & Chris !

Lovely to meet you all. Wow, how great that we can all chat prior to arriving 'stunned' in Kathmandu airport haha. Like you, I'm very excited (also a little nervous too!). I'll be flying from Heathrow to New Dehli then onto Kathmandu like you Ricky. 👍

Looking forward to hearing from you all ! 

Weekend vibes! 

 

super excited, slowly meeting more of our group Elaine :)

like Ricky and yourself I am traveling Heathrow to New Deli and then Kathmandu. Excited and a little nervous, this is my first big expo, so the unexpected is adding to this but so good to start meeting those I will be sharing this dream with. Bought myself a new day backpack last weekend so out giving it debut outing this weekend, some local trekking paths.

great weekend everyone 

Welcome to the group Elaine :) 

And Heathrow flyers. 

Keep an eye out for me... I'll be the lad with a strong Bristol accent with the look of fear on his face 😂 

Hi All. 

Yes I have to agree Cheryl. This has been something I have wanted to do for a long time now. We'll be sharing this altogether. I'll be travelling 'solo' too, how about we all grab a pre-flight coffee or beer at Heathrow?? 😊 

Beer or a coffee sounds great (think I'll opt for the beer) . Will be great to meet people before we head out. Such an exciting experience, read countless blogs and watched hours of video.. still can't get my head around what we will be seeing tho. 

Have to sort out a meeting place, not been Heathrow for a while. I'm sure there was a weatherspoons in departures tho.

this sounds a great idea, i have never flown out of Heathrow, will be travelling down grom Manchester to stay with family on the Thursday evening. So make a suggestion of where, I will be the one who is looking lost :)

not long now! excitement/ trepidation all at the same time is churning inside :):)

According to website.... there is a pub called the 'Prince of Wales' in terminal 4 (after security). Seems quite a nice place... sells alcohol hehe (oh and coffee). You can check it out. What does everyone think?? 😊

sounds good to me, reckon we will find each other by giving clues on the day, what wearing etc...

question: 

is everyone taking there own sleeping bag, I only have 3-4 season and site recommends season 4-5 or has anyone hired through the travel co Or. buying there, not sure what to do??

Hi Cheryl,

I'm taking my rab ascent 700. I have a 500 and 900. I found that I was too warm in 900 in the Atlas Mountains. Figured I'd go with 700 and if required sleep in a layer. I'll also be using a silk liner. 

Hope that helps

Chris 

Hi to all you guys.  Starting to get nerviously excited, not long to go.  Anyone flying from Manchester ?

I'm quite envious of you guys now, with all your excitement and stuff. For those who haven't been through Delhi airport before, you have to pass through a transit security area. There's usually a bloke hanging around before the queue who seems to have to scribble something on your boarding pass before you can pass through. If you join the queue without it then you may have to go back, get it scribbled on, and join the queue again so don't just stride past him if he's there (like I did). When you go through security, pick up a blank luggage label before the scanners as they need to stamp it afterwards to say your luggage has been scanned. The security people are quite surly, and it's really inefficient, so a few deep breaths are needed for patience. :) Other than that, it's quite a nice, modern airport. Have fun!

Sounds perfect to me, I'm sure I can find my way to the bar. Prince of Wales it is.

As for sleeping bag I have a 4 season OEX down filled compact, that along with my clothes and thermals I'll be happy with.

Thanks for the advice on Dehli DJ .. Im guessing with your wording that you are not joining us on this trip? 

Hi Kate, I'm flying from Manchester. Flying to Abu Dhabi 19:35 then onto Kathmandu. I'm guessing that you are on the same flights? 

Hi Chris, it appears we are not on the same flights.  We fly from Manchester at 14.25 to Doha then on to Kathmandu.  Thats a shame but look forward to meeting up in Kathmandu.

Hi DJ,

 

Thank you for your advice. Much appreciated. But really?? Will we have to pass through security again at New Dehli Airport even if we are not exiting out of the airport. Isn't there a type of holding area for passengers who are in transit / awaiting boarding of connecting fights? 

 

Elaine 😊

 

 

Hi Elaine. Yep, though I suppose they may have changed things since last year. The check includes a hand scanner and pat down too. After security, you end up in a retail area with a little food hall upstairs . The 'WH Smith' type place will take a sterling note and give change in Indian rupees if you want a drink. If you carry on to the gate, there is a wide seating area, including a handful of 'sun lounger' type seats.

Kathmandu airport is less glamourous, but quite exotic and interesting for it. Keep a pen handy to fill in the immigration form, which hopefully you can get on the plane. It's a bit manic in the airport. There's a money exchange after passport control but you can change money at the hotel reception or use the ATM at the bank behind the hotel down the alleyway and around to the left (if it's the Royal Singi). There's usually a security guard there.

Almost directly opposite the Royal Singi, there's a little supermarket down some steps where you can buy cheap drinks (incl bottles of water), sweets, toilet rolls, cigarettes and lighters, toiletries and stuff, when it's open. The Royal Singi has a left luggage room so if you take another bag then you can leave stuff there while on trek. Having some non-trek clothes to revert to afterwards is a relief. :)

DJ, thank you. What invaluable information. Much appreciated! Especially re: the immigration form and money exchange places! 

Will the others on this trip be getting their 'visa' on arrival?? 

 

Elaine 😊

 

Hi Elaine, we are getting our Visa on arrival, I`m told its easy but can be busy.  Trying to decide wether to pay in sterling or USD, I`m reading that the exchange rate is better on the dollar than the pound, especially at the airport in Kathandu.  Would love anybody elses thoughts on this.  Thankyou.

Think im going to do visa on arrival also, no real reason for it.. I don't have a real idea on what to do. Advice on that would be fantastic

Think im going to do visa on arrival also, no real reason for it.. I don't have a real idea on what to do. Advice on that would be fantastic

Same here Ricky, I dont have an idea so will take any advise and probably go with the majority. 

Hi there, I`ve downloaded a form of the Nepal immigration website.  I hate form filling in an airport queue.  Here`s the address, link doesn`t want to happen.

http://www.nepalimmigration.gov.np/article/97/appendix-%E2%80%93-1-relat...

I`m thinking of taking USD to pay its $25 for a 15 day  tourist visa, you can pay in £ but apparently the exchange is bad at the airport.  You also need 2 passport photo`s.  I`m just getting a photo booth set done as we also need a photo for our trek pass thingy.  Hope this is correct info, I will welcome any advise on anything.

Can not believe we go 6 weeks today

I've been to Nepal about 10 times and I've always had my visa in place before travel, using Travcour. However, I don't think there's much risk in waiting to get it at the airport in Nepal. The main advantage of having it in place is that you can get to the luggage carousel quicker. I was always worried about someone else grabbing my bag, given its value and importance to the trek, but they now do a cursory check of the luggage labels before you leave the area. A local trying to slope off with a shiny new Exodus bag would probably stand out anyway.

Be careful once you leave the airport to keep your hand on your bags at all times, even when standing next to the minibus to take you to the hotel. Nepal is so overwhelming (and fantastic!) at first that if you're not used to it then it's easy to get distracted. Locals will probably try to put your bag on a trolley and push it to the minibus, expecting to be given money (100 rupees at least) for the service. I would refuse and carry it yourself. The local Exodus people will have Exodus polo shirts on, but the minibus people won't.

As with any trek, wear your boots on the way out just in case the luggage doesn't make it. Almost anything can be replaced in Kathmandu except your comfortable boots.

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