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Will Tibet happen this year?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:55

After last year's trip was cancelled due to Chinese Visa problems, I've signed up for the 2013 trip. Anyone else on this trip - it's Guaranteed to run, so there must be some other brave souls out there?

I ended cycing Vietnam last year - which was fantastic, and a great introduction to a cycling holiday. I did wilt in the humidity somewhat, so I'm hoping to go somewhere a little colder... and higher.

Fingers crossed it happens.

Anonymous
Wed, 02/06/2013 - 11:26

Hi, Helen ,ihave booked to go on 21 sept ,Exodus have told me no trouble with visa,and have my flight details.Two other companys said they could not get visas so lets hope.I am going on 21 ,what date are you going and are you taking your own bike,i am taking mine,it will be difficult with wieight restrictions.  WOWyou have done some really hard climbs welldone.Paul

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 12:43

Hi Paul - I'm signed up for the 21st Sept departure as well.

I'm just hiring a bike - I'll take my saddle and pedals though.  I hired a bike in Vietnam and it was great (Specialized).  No excess baggage charges for the majority of the fights, and I won't have to worry about my own bike being lost/damaged in transit.  6 months to go!

Anonymous
Fri, 04/05/2013 - 20:01

Hi Guys, I think I have decided to take my own bike, which packed weighs 11.5 kg, so lighter packed than the hire bike (and so lower flight charges to lhasa), plus saving hire charge . Then there is the total weight allowance with the airline which is an encouragement to keep the total weight down to a minimum for the whole journey. Got most of the stuff needed (duvet jacket, sleeping bag, etc) so can do a practice pack and weigh session, and see how it goes before a final decision. But looking forward to it, even though six months off the 21 Sept departure

 

If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 20:50

Hi Pete.  I now have almost 6 months to remember both yours and Paul's names - so thanks for introducing yourself.  I have friends out in Nepal at the moment - so I'm really jealous, and lookig forward to the trip.  I hope the next 5 months goes quicky!

I weighed my MTB and it's rather heavier than 11.5kg!  Plus I doubt my competence in packing it for the flight AND putting it together again at the other end.  Knowing my luck, I'd forget one of the wheels ;-)

At the moment I'm wondering what size rucksack I need to take - what stuff will I need to carry with me.  In Vietnam I hardly needed to carry anything - but I suspect in Tibet I'd probably need to take an extra layer, gloves etc.

 

Anonymous
Thu, 04/11/2013 - 21:16

I think there is quite a lot of logistic info required before we decide a final list of clothing requirements. For example, the support vehicle cannot be in to places at once, obviously, so if we have a large group that splits, then does the vehicle follow the last rider (just in case) or go ahead to be at the finish for the first rider. Either way it may be necessary to carry a duvet jacket and head gear to wear at the finish (to keep warm until re-united with the luggage). Ideally the group sticks to gether with the vehicle and are all together at the finish, but with the route, distances involved and varying levels of ability/fitness, it is unlikely that sticking together will suit everyone.

I know that sounds a bit trivial, but if the temperature is low, it could make a huge difference, finishing wet and tired, and then getting cold. Layering is obviously the way to go, but the question is how many layers, for before, during and after..

 

that doesnt help, I know, but the point is, I think we need a bit more info before deciding. I think I will carry my jacket anyway as if you have a mechanical issue, and are waiting for help, then the same applies where you could get very cold quickly (I would imagine). I have never seen a picture of anyone sunbathing in trunks/costume at 5000m...lol.

 

If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 21:32

>I have never seen a picture of anyone sunbathing in trunks/costume at 5000m...lol.

Maybe not sunbathing - but how about a Mankini at Base Camp? Brrrrr!

https://picasaweb.google.com/116053788768799876439/ScrapbookPhotos#58656...

 

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Anonymous
Thu, 04/11/2013 - 21:52

the mind boggles as to why, or how, you have that picture in your posession ????

No explanation required, we have 1200kms to find out...

 

If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 21:55

Taken when I was on the Everest North Col climb in 2010 - it was one of my team-mates going for a shower at base camp. I'll leave it to you to decide whether to pack one or not!

H

 

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Anonymous
Thu, 04/11/2013 - 21:56

If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Anonymous
Tue, 04/16/2013 - 15:59

Builth Wells, 14th April, 11 degrees, wet and very, very windy. Common sense said do the shorter course as the mud was axle deep in places, the downhill sections were narrow with steep drop-offs and the open moorlands boggy and strength sapping.. good decision !!!! Still out for just under three hours for the 30km route, but with finishing in the top third, had to happy with that. It's all about enhancing bike handling and stamina/determination at this point, and praying the weather in Lhasa is no worse than this...

 

If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:32

Put a plastic bag over your head and breathe through a straw and you can simulate the altitude too ;-)

 

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Anonymous
Mon, 05/27/2013 - 19:35

Hello Helen, Pete and Paul,

Myself and my partner Ross are booked on this trip and are v excited, am sure it will come round soon as well.  My uncle Ian is also booked on the trip, he is arriving from Sydney.

Just wondering if you have decided about getting your Nepal visa on arrival or before.  I have looked on Travcour and you also have to pay a service charge of £40 so I think we will leave it until we get there. 

Looking forward to meeting you all,

Emma

Anonymous
Mon, 05/27/2013 - 19:41

If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Anonymous
Mon, 05/27/2013 - 19:43

i was under the impression that Exodus sorted that as part of the trip ??  They have asked for my details, so thought it was in hand..

Have you been to Nepal/Tibet before ??? and clocking up the miles on the bike ??  the 100 mile day looks tough

Pete

If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 19:46

You have to get your own Nepalese visa - but Exodus get the Tibetan one (we will be on a group visa - you can't get individual Tibetan ones)

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:43

I think I need to do more hill work!  The downhills were great, but the long uphills in the Scottish Borders was a bit of a killer.  On the plus side, I didn't get off to push.  On the downhill side, I had a headwind.

I will appologise now for being at the back of the group when we're in Tibet..... my excuse is "the slower you ascend, the better you acclimatise".  That, and "I just wanted to take yet another photograph" ;-)

Anonymous
Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:53

Where were you riding???

If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 18:19

Around Biggar (South Lanarkshire)

Anonymous
Sat, 06/01/2013 - 20:43

Thank you helen I will look into your visa link. I'm a big fan of taking photos too, might try to rig up some kind of camera holder so that I don't hold the group up and get further behind with my photo taking!

Got some spd pedals / shoes today to try to help on the uphills. Only one minor falling off incident, not bad for a first go!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 20:53

Hi Emma - nice to know I won't be the only one viewing the trip through a camera lens ;-)  I am a little concerned about the availability to recharge camera batteries though!  My only previous cycling trip was Vietnam last year, and I managed to take photos whilst cycling.  It's a skill I totally recommend mastering..... though it's a good excuse to stop when you need a rest "just taking a photo (huff, puff, pant)"

Good luck with your SPDs - put them on the loosest that you can (they still work OK but you can get your feet out quickly).

Anonymous
Sat, 06/01/2013 - 21:28

Haha! Although I am going to try to limit the photos as I always take too many! Yes I need to train with the 'photo taking whilst cycling' as much as the biking! Like the excuse too, might use that.
I had the spds on v loose, good tip. I might tighten them bit by bit. As long as I remember my feet are attached I should be ok, it's when I forget and then come to a stop and tip over, Del Boy style!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 21:30

What's the most you've ever taken on a trip before?  And what's your camera - Nikon or Canon?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 21:30

You can NEVER take too many pictures, btw

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 21:30

You can NEVER take too many pictures, btw

Anonymous
Wed, 06/05/2013 - 18:39

Samsung.  And over 3000 on a 2 week trip to India!!

Wed, 06/05/2013 - 19:03

Oh wow - I take loads of pictures and I've never met anyone who also snaps away like that.  The beauty of digital ;-)  I can't wait to meet you Emma!

 

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Anonymous

Hope all you guys have a great time! Anybody going out at the start September? Counting the days now! :-)

Anonymous
Wed, 06/05/2013 - 22:18

Hi Kay

no, I am going 21st September. seems not far off now, so understand the "counting days" thoughts 

If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 14:19

I'm on the 21st Sept departure too - but I'm actually heading out one day early, so will arrive in Kathmandu on the 21st. Gives me an extra day to get over the jet lag and to do some shopping errrrr, I mean sightseeing ;-)

I'm also doing the Chitwan extension afterwards for 3 days. A chill-out reward after all the hard work cycling

H

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Thu, 06/06/2013 - 14:19

I'm on the 21st Sept departure too - but I'm actually heading out one day early, so will arrive in Kathmandu on the 21st. Gives me an extra day to get over the jet lag and to do some shopping errrrr, I mean sightseeing ;-)

I'm also doing the Chitwan extension afterwards for 3 days. A chill-out reward after all the hard work cycling

H

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Thu, 06/06/2013 - 14:21

Sorry - when I use the app on my phone it posts my comment twice for some reason, and doesn't like line spaces either.

Sun, 06/16/2013 - 18:55

 Roll on September!  After a very hilly training ride this morning, I'm rather hoping to not have to do that route ever again.  I know that the more hills I do, the fitter I'll be and the easier the trip...... but I was rather hoping that the scenery, the bus up my rear wheel, and the thought of a chocolate bar at the top of the hills would get me over the high passes - not cycling up a 20% hill whilst walkers coming down it can't contain their sniggers at me huffing, puffing and complaining my thighs are burning. I think a hot bath and a beer is in order ;-)

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Anonymous
Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:57

Does anyone have a list of jabs definately required for the Tibet trip - three months now, so time to get them done, I think ???? 

 

If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Anonymous
Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:00

Just got back from ten days off the bike, owrking on the John O'Groats to Lands End ride (JOGLE - RAB2013). Interesting insite into the clothing requirements, although only UK the weather was bad to excellent, and from 4 to 21 degrees, with wind zero to 30mph, so very similar, I guess.  Looks like the riding gear is MOST important, and any casual gear is an absolute minimum.

If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 16:17

I've been thinking about clothing too Pete - staying warm enough whilst riding (uphill I suspect won't be as much of an issue as I'll generate heat, but downhill I'll get cold).  Plus the higher we go, the colder it will get - even in the sun.  In the evening I'll be snuggled up in my down jacket.  I'll appologise in advance for my lack of fashion - comfort and warmth comes first.

H

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Anonymous
Tue, 06/18/2013 - 17:08

that was my main point, function over fashion, every time

If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 21:37

I reckon you can be both functional and fashionable (please - no socks and sandals).  What colour are the hire bikes - I need to colour co-ordinate ;-)

 

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Anonymous
Wed, 06/19/2013 - 20:18

I have got a merino wool base layer that I got from Go Outdoors, with a windstopper front and 2/3 zip.. Perfect for down hills as stops wind, but on uphill sections can be unzipped to waist (or appropriate point for the ladies). Coupled with a spare Gilet (folds small and light) should give all the extra protection needed..

 If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 20:34

>or appropriate point for the ladies

That's what sports bra's are for - enabling zips to be undone whilst preserving modesty.

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:38

Training is now on hold for a week or so as I've gone and hurt my leg.  Got a minor muscle tear in my calf ;-(  Apart from anti-inflammatories and some physio - any suggestions for quick recovery, and more importantly, preventing it from happening again?

H

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Anonymous
Sat, 07/06/2013 - 05:21

Always remember R.I.C.E
Rest, ice, compression, elevation

Then try and figure out what happened?? over use??
i have just spent two weeks working on two sportives and the JOGLE. most common injuries were the knees but there were an amazing number of calf problems. physio tape seemed to get a lot of people through and may help support your calf until fully healed. My physio mate says most muscle injuries in cycling are through poor core strength issues and over compensation in the legs. you can do core work without further damage to calf. good luck
If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 07:08

Glad to report my leg is feeling much better. A couple more days of stretches and exercises and I reckon I'll be able to start cycling again. Phew!

Anonymous
Sun, 07/21/2013 - 09:51

just got my booster for rabies to go, also concerned about altitude, but dont like taking pills un neccesarily??? advice from the experts, please?

 

If you worried about falling off, you would never get on in the first place.

Anonymous
Tue, 07/23/2013 - 09:20

I'm be joining you on the 1st September departure Kayj so you won't be riding solo.

Reading this blog I think I might need to do some more preparation

- Not got a Visa

- Not been doing any specific training (although I do ride a bit anyway)

- Never been too altitude but not taking any pills (Heard too many bad stories)

- Not got any vaccinations 

- Not got a big padded jacket, but I do have lots of thermals

- Not taking my own bike. Unfortunately I can't as I'm travelling around Europe for 4 weeks and then flying direct to Kathmandu (well I will be when I get round to booking a flight?!!) 

I might not be prepared but I am inspired after watching the Tour de France.

Awesome, I can't wait (especially for that downhill)

Anonymous
Tue, 07/23/2013 - 21:34

Excellent! I get there a day early too. Think I arrive on the Saturday 31st but can't remember time off hand! Flying LHR -Delhi-Kathamndu with BA. Really excited. :-)

Anonymous
Wed, 07/24/2013 - 05:30

I'll also be there on the 31st (Flying from Moscow via Delphi on Air India,  much more scary that the actual bike ride!). When I registered apparently there were already 12 (some from UK some from Australia ... I'm dual citizen so don't know where I count in such numbers?!) so I'm expecing almost a full group (I think 16 is max).

 

 

Anonymous
Wed, 07/24/2013 - 12:52

Great to hear from you. I get into Kathmandu Sat 31st @ 1600 local - Flying Man - Abu Dhabi -Kathmandu. Just being to think about kit needs and how to pack light - not very good at that normally! S

Anonymous
Wed, 07/24/2013 - 18:16

Think it's going to be a fab trip. I have booked an extra night at the guesthouse but I think they can still arrange a transfer but probably need to confirm? I am not a great packer by nature and have downsized the size of my pack to 60L. Probably still bigger than everybody else's but smaller than the 80L I used to lug around. Lol. I used to live in the mountains in France and even on hot summer days you still need a jumper at night so I'm guessing that even if day temperatures are nice it will be cold at night when your up that high! I'm going for lots of layers? :-)

Anonymous
Sun, 07/28/2013 - 09:12

Thanks Einstein

I have to say that the tingly fingers thing does not sound pleasant! I think I'll go with your advice :-)

Sun, 07/28/2013 - 13:47

If anyone doesn't have down jacket, sleeping bag etc - you can either buy or hire in Kathmandu.  Go to Shona's and you won't get ripped off (or practice your haggling in Thamel).  Buying in Kathmandu will save you a fortune on what you'd pay in the UK (even if they are fake, but good quality goods).

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