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Anonymous
Wed, 11/18/2009 - 21:28

Hi, just found out about this forum.  So, if you are on the trip & want to share information, please let me know.

- Steve H Dublin, Ireland

Anonymous
Fri, 11/20/2009 - 14:05

Hi Steve,

I'm on what must be the same trip, departing Heathrow on Friday 19th March. You give your departure date as Saturday 20th - are you maybe joining it on the Saturday in Kathmandu?

I think there might only be the two of us booked on this so far - I was told there was only one other when I booked about a month ago - though maybe your message will flush out any others who have signed-up since.

Looks a fantastic trip, doesn't it?! You done this kind of trip before?

Cheers.

Mike

Anonymous
Tue, 11/24/2009 - 21:41

Hi guys. I'm not on your trip, but going to Base Camp in March. I've not been on one of these before, and a little nervous about the potential altitude sickness. How's your training going? Pete

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 15:46

Hi guys. Saw your post about AMS (slow day at work!) Follow this thread for some info;

http://www.exodus.co.uk/forum/post/12595-altitude-sickness

We've never used Diamox, but just moved slowly on the way up, and taken aspirin and Gingko. Works every time!

Anonymous
Sun, 12/06/2009 - 20:58

sparkle

Hi, I have just booked to go on this trip....very excited. I am trying to get fit by walking up and down the north downs where I live but who knows what the altitude will do? In my experience before it's like the worst hangover but after drinking masses of water it went. What gear are you taking...have you got to buy anything?

Anonymous
Tue, 12/08/2009 - 19:30

Hi all,

 Just getting back to this after the trip confirmed - I was beginning to doubt it - good to see it is an active thread.  Mike, I did get my departure date wrong.  I'm coming from Dublin, and will meet the group in London.  I think I share the sentiments expressed so far. 

Obviously really looking forward to it. Trailblazer guide seems good and pretty grounded.

First time travelling with exodus and my first time to Nepal, so it's all new & a big adventure for me.

does anybody have info / links on a training plan? - I've kind of got it together, but I could use some other pointers to help me get creative - not too many hills within easy reach for me!

- Steve

Anonymous
Wed, 12/09/2009 - 10:40

Hi All. I hear what you are saying about AMS Mike...but I think it's good to air our concerns as well as our excitements regarding the trip. If we work as a team we have a better chance of completing the trip successfully. My main concern is that I enjoy it rather than endure it, although I'm sure the later will be a big part. It is my first time to Nepal and have always wanted to meet Everest. In my experience Exodus have been excellent before.

Steve I think we have to try and build up lots of stamina and perhaps doing things to keep your heart rate increased for a long period of time, don't over do it though, as Mike said too much training can result in injury. I am blessed with hills around me and try to get out for an hour a day, will increase it at weekends.

I went to covent garden at weekend and looked at all the wonderful  treking gear. I have to get warmer gloves but still bawk at paying £40 but I think I will bite the bullet and do it.  

I am going to Brecon Beacons  for new year and will test my five year old sleeping bag..hopefully it will be warm enough with a liner...but will get a new one if not.  

 

Anonymous
Mon, 12/14/2009 - 12:19

Hi Sparkle/Steve,

Have managed to sneak a day's walking in - not sure the Yorkshire Wolds is much like Khumbu, but its all time in my boots, which can only help. That said, some colder weather and maybe even snow is forecast for later this week, so will try to get out again. Am away to the Lake District (a part of it not yet submerged) for a fortnight just after New Year, and hoping to get some serious consecutive days in then - it is getting back into the routine of day-after-day walking that I need. The ageing process seems to have hit my ability to bounce-back after exercise more than anything else.

I'm sure you're agenda, Sparkle, of "enjoying rather than enduring" is the right objective for us all. I wonder if we might have to learn the mental trick of embracing enduring in order to enjoy the trip!

As for training programme, Steve, I think it all depends on what our individual base level of fitness/experience is. As I said, my preoccupation is doing just enough to have confidence in my physical fitness, without risking over-training injuries this time, and I'm working on simply increasing physical endurance and mental toughness, which implies but doesn't really focus on pushing the cardio-vascular side. Completing training sesssions even on days when I don't really feel like it seems to help me with this! I'm trying to fit in four or five exercise sessions per week, mixing jogging ("plodding" would be more accurate!) with exercise machines, and, when I can, walking with full day pack etc. None of the individual days walking on this trip are very long in terms of mileage (the Kala Pattar day looks the longest), so I think its going to be getting used to walking slowly, keeping warm, dry and well-fed, and simply staying on our feet for the time required that are going to be the main keys to enjoying this trip. The first part, walking slowly enough, has proved a real challenge for some of the fitter walkers I've been with on previous trips.

To be honest, I'm thinking that the biggest challenge for me (risk of AMS and/or acute injury aside), is likely to be the grinding-down effect of camping at high altitude in cold weather for 18 nights. Time for a confession - I really don't enjoy camping! However, I realy don't fancy the noise of tea-houses/lodges, and there's no other way of getting to some places, is there? And this will be very much the longest trip I'll have done, and the longest time I'll have spent at this kind of altitude. That said, this will be my fifth trip with Exodus, and my experience suggests that we can be totally confident in their management and leadership of the trek.

One query for you both - apart from other vaccinations that I have to check whether are still current, I'm thinking of having the rabies jabs this time - lots of dogs around the villages, and high prevalence of rabies in Nepal, I'm told. Either of you intending to have these shots?

Will be interesting to see whether other group members sign up for this forum in due course - I was told that, despite the formal minimum being 6, this would likely run with 5, but I'd be surprised if they'd have confirmed it with only three of us. Anyway, we'll see.

In case we all get too busy to be in touch over Christmas, my best wishes for the season.

Cheers.

Mike

 

Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 11:08

Hi Mike/ Steve

I love your thought process Mike embracing endurance! I know that one and will hold onto it!

I hadnt thought of getting a rabbies jab and not too concerned...will take my walking poles to fend off dogs! Any thoughts on crampons? I've discovered my boots are not crampon rated and do not want to get new ones.... 

Anonymous
Tue, 12/29/2009 - 22:08

Hi Sparkle,

I'll be using 3-4 season boots, so, like yours, not stiff enough for crampons. But have bought "Yaktrax" which I've actually had a chance to use last week and they seem excellent - in as far as Yorkshire Wolds have recently replicated Himalayan glacier conditions!

Hmmm . . . Rabies jabs or fending dogs off with poles - its a tough choice! Still thinking about it, but will likely go for both!

Take care y'all, and look forward to meeting you next year.

Best wishes.

Mike

Anonymous
Wed, 12/30/2009 - 15:33

Hi Sparkle

I am on the trip on 10 March to Base Camp and the Goyoko Lakes so similar to yours. I saw that you walk on the North Downs as part of your preparation. I live in Edenbridge and am trying to motivate myself to some local walking in preparation. If you have any further plans for walking on the downs and could do with an additional companion, it would be good to hear from you.

 

Cheers.

 

Rick

Anonymous
Wed, 12/30/2009 - 17:26

Hi All....well my plans of going to the Brecon Beacons have been cancelled due to the heavy snowfall, I don't mind the snow once I get there but the roads are impassable at my destination. So it's a bit lower down in the Wye Valley. Still camping and so preparing for enduring the cold.

Rick...that sounds a good idea and anyone living in the area (north downs, Kent). Perhaps we could meet one weekend in January?

Karen 

Anonymous
Thu, 01/14/2010 - 13:30

Hi everyone and Happy New Year!

Didn't have a chance to look at this part of Exodus website for the last few month and seeing entry for the High Passes made my day today :)
Booked this trip last year but was unable to go as the trip was cancelled :/ don't think they had enough people wanting to go. So really pleased that we are going this time :)
Main worry now is the same as Mike's - stay fit and keep the weight off :) I'm definitely taking it easy this time though… had injury as well while training for this trip last year and feel effects of it even now. From my past experiences at high altitude it's usually more what's in your head than how very very fit you are. Of course being fit helps :)

Not long now :) look forward to meeting you all

Best wishes
Ausra

Anonymous
Sat, 01/16/2010 - 16:00

Good to hear you Ausra. I have had plenty of kentish snow to help me train, not to mention my camping experience in wales at new year. It gave me a taste of what may be to come. Woke up with frost on my head and had to smash the ice in my water bottle to make tea in the morning. My sleeping bag with a fleece liner was just about warm enough but it may be colder out in nepal! I am very into one of the books recomended. A womans account of Everest...it makes a very interesting read and gives all the details of suffering but the exhilarations as well.

Anonymous
Mon, 01/18/2010 - 13:03

He he :) good for you!! At least you know what to expect now :) I tried to count how many really cold nights we will have and so far I'd say about 10 of them. It gets really cold once you are above 4000m. I went back to Lithuania to visit my parents at Christmas and we had -13 during the day… and believe me that was COLD. I didn't dare to camp outside though :) So my real worry is how to cope with it at night. During the day it will be fine as we will be moving around. 12kg limit is also not helping as it is just enough to pack your basics.

 

I also just ordered a Jamie McGuinness's book that Mike mentioned. Hope it will give me some more useful tips. Although I do understand that you can not prepare for everything. So apart from sorting out my Visa, getting Typhoid re-immunisation and some US$ - I'm ready :) I feel excited and scarred at the same time… bit weird as it's not the first time I'm trekking, but this one will be the toughest so far. Can't wait for those brilliant views of the mountains and lakes. Clears your head like nothing else :)  -- Ausra

Anonymous
Wed, 01/20/2010 - 09:36

I hadn't registered the small amount of weight we are allowed....in my mind I was packing all sorts of things...I will have a rethink! Not sure about getting a visa here or in Nepal! It's cheeper over there?

 I don't have a problem with weight to lose..if anything I want to put some on because I am going to lose what I have got out there..hopefully not through the Kathmandu quick step! I do have a persistant problem with my back though and sciatica...it's a right pain in the backside!

I have just started the book Left for Dead, Beck Weathers speaks of the same Everest disaster in 1996 as Lene Gammelgaard in Climbing high...really interesting!  

Anonymous
Wed, 01/20/2010 - 21:08

Hi all,

Working hard on the fitness, bit difficult though, especially with the weather. 

Accumulating gear too!  (too much of course!) I too am quite concerned about the nighttime temp.  Do we know what it is likely to be during the day ? I read up to -20 to -30 at night ? is that right ? 

Also, the visa thing - I read we didn't need one ?   If that's not the case, has anybody else obtained one ...

 

- Steve

Anonymous
Thu, 01/21/2010 - 09:15

Steve, Visa - you definitely need one. I think the only ones who do not are Indian nationals. You can get one from travcour.com in UK or at the airport in Nepal. I was planning to get mine from Travcour in February. Did it before and I liked the hustle free service they offer. But as Karen mentioned it's a bit more expensive (it's £67).

I see it's not just me who's worried about the night temperatures :) -20 to -30 is probably during the winter season, however I wouldn't be surprised if it would drop that low. I am thinking about -15 to -20 at the high camps we'll be. But that's the temperature outside. Now if it's two of you in the tent it will be definitely warmer. For me it's a bit trickier. I have some sleeping problems and because I don't want this to affect my fellow trekkers I opted for a single tent. This means that it will be colder at night. But I have what's called a space blanket. It's very light but might be a life saviour if it gets freezing cold. I always think that you need to hope for the best but pack for the worst. By the way in Jamie's book he mentioned that in Tengboche which if I remember correctly is somewhere at 3800m temperatures are between +10 during the day and -7 at night. So you can see why I'm expecting -15 when we camp higher :)

During the day you'll be fine. Layering system is very important as you don't want to get too sweaty. First of all at the high altitude there is no way to dry out your clothes and you get very cold very quickly if you are not careful. I expect it to be very cold and windy on the passes as they might be very exposed. But I might be wrong. Have never been to Nepal before. But even then I'm not buying a duvet jacket even if everyone recommends it. I hope to be ok without one. Have a worm fleece and primaloft jackets. With a waterproof outer jacket I hope it will be enough.

Karen, to be honest I was planning to take a little bit more than 12kg we aloud and just see what our guide will tell us on the briefing meeting in Kathmandu. I know that in the past they had "15kg limit on the trek" in their old trip notes. If not, then I can always leave some stuff at the hotel.

I'm halfway through Jamie's book and enjoy every bit of it. I think it is definitely better than the Lonely Planet one.

Anonymous
Thu, 01/21/2010 - 11:44

Blimey! Lovely to see that you've all been busy on this forum! I see we're now number one hot topic! And happy to see that now we are a happy band of four . . .

Anyway, apologies for having been quiet - was away walking in Cumbria for a bit (lovely snowy conditions, indeed everything was lovely until mains water supply to the cottage froze-up, so we came home!). Since return, have been a bit busy.

Catching-up with what you've all been saying:

Visa - my passport is presently with the Nepalese embassy - hope to see it back, with visa, sometime soon. I'd rather get it done here than queue at Kathmandu. And I can't quite see what added value Travcour offer so just downloaded the form and sent it off myself.

Levels of cold etc - trying to triangulate the various things I've read, I'm thinking that -15 to -20 is a fair guess for lower end of night time temps at the higher camps. I'm taking a 4 season bag (yet to be bought . . .) plus a silk liner, plus warm base-layers for night-time. I also have pre-booked a tent for my sole use - no specific issues with me (other than, at altitude, urinating aproximately every 15 mins!) but simply there is nobody, and I mean NOBODY, who I would happily share a tent with in sub zero temps at altitude for 2 or 3 weeks!

Weight issues -

(a) mine hasn't gone down any since I put several pounds on in the run-up to, and over, Christmas! Would like to be about 5 pounds lighter before we start out! Still, my more than usually toned and muscular figure is beginning to return, as I hit the exercise machines and plod over the tarmac - and if you believe that, you'll believe anything!

(b) Personally, I wouldn't try to get away with too much over the 12kg baggage limit on the trek. Quite aside from issues over what total loads porters/yaks might be expected to carry, I've heard they are very strict (for very good safety reasons) regarding baggage weight on the flight into Lukla. So I'll be sticking to the 12kg in the main bag - though assuming that our daysacks, which I'm assuming we carry on as hand-luggage, don't count towards that 12kg. If nobody has an authoritative answer to this, I might talk with somebody at Exodus.

And I think that's all in terms of catching-up. Are we all getting ever-so-slightly excited with 8 weeks to go?! Oh, yes, and just a tiny bit nervous . . .

Let's keep in touch, and we'll see if anybody else joins in.

Cheers.

Mike

Anonymous
Thu, 01/21/2010 - 12:26

This is what I got from Exodus back in October when I tried to clarify the allowance differences in their Trip Notes: "The luggage allowance for the flight from Kathmandu to Lukla is 12kg, but you can take hand luggage in addition to this.  The weight that the porters will carry from Lukla onwards should not be more than the 15kg that you bring over."

But of course at that time they had 15kg mentioned in their Trip Notes. Maybe it's worth doublechecking with them again. 3kg is a big difference. If anything I can try to email them again.

Excited! Oh yes :) Nervous? Definitely :) I am a bit worried that I might be the slowest in the team, but then again it's not a marathon so hopefully I'll be fine :)

Anonymous
Thu, 01/21/2010 - 13:53

Thanks, Ausra - glad to hear that you've already checked this out. I think that the bottom line is probably 12kg plus day-sac as hand-luggage, which at least makes sense. I'm inclined to disregard the ref to 15kg, unless somebody can tell me otherwise.

And as for speed on the walks, this is defintiely not a race (for me at least!). Remember what Wainwright says about walking in the hills - "time is for spending not saving". So the walks are to be savoured not rushed.

Cheers.

Mike

 

Anonymous
Thu, 01/21/2010 - 15:01

I'm loving this forum, part of the trip is the excitement before for me...has anyone thought about camera's....in my experience before digital has not worked as it's too cold...has anyone come up with anything on this...I am taking both an old 35mm and digital?

I will be taking it slowly too....don't want to peak too early!  

Anonymous
Thu, 01/21/2010 - 21:41

Hi Everyone,

I booked on this trip a couple of weeks ago so I thought I'd say hi, especially as the forum as has been so active. Sounds like everyone has been keeping very busy preparing for the trip. I've got the fitness side of things in hand but I can't say I've done a great deal of any other prep, which makes me think I should do something, particularly in terms of deciding which 12kgs of kit I'm going to take!

I was interested to read the comments on the visa, I was planning to get mine in Kathmandu but I might reconsider this. Is anyone else planning to get their visa in Nepal or is everyone obtaining one beforehand?

As regards the latests comments on cameras I've previsously slept with my digital camera in my sleeping bag in similar types of conditions and it was fine. I also met someone a couple of years ago who had done this trip and she did the same without any problems. Not ideal admittedly but worth the potential minor discomfort in my opinion.

Anyway, good to hear from everyone.

Cheers

Simon 

 

 

 

 

 

Anonymous
Fri, 01/22/2010 - 11:33

Hi Simon - welcome aboard! Quite agree re need for keeping batteries warm, and I'll be taking a stock of lithium batteries which do seem to last considerably longer than alkaline, and so seem worth the extra cost. Had looked at greener alternative of NiMh rechargeable but am not convinced that I can be confident enough of any of the solar kit on offer. That said, if anyone is on rechargeables, it seems that quite a few teahouses etc do offer some kind of recharging service if we're ever hanging round in the right place when batteries need charging.

Sparkle:  I'm taking a digital camera halfway between a compact and SLR - what they call a "bridge" or "superzoom" model - it offers an equivalent of 28mm to 400mm lenses in SLR terms in the one lens. Have coped OK on previous trips with a compact digital, but it simply didn't offer the same range of focal lengths. However, just in case the camera dies or disappears, I will also take a very low-tech disposable 35mm camera, so at least I'll have some grainy snapshots!

Cheers.

Mike

 

Anonymous
Fri, 01/22/2010 - 15:07

Thanks for your tips re camera's...I think I will go and get some spare batteries and take both camera's. I remember being at 5,000 metres before and thinking that the kit I could improve on would be warmer gloves..I had two fleece one on, insulated hydration tube and a warmer balaclava, my face froze..so I am going to get some mitts as well as gloves and a fleece balaclava to protect my face...I've got to get some spikeys or yaktrax as well.

Just remebered spare batteries for head torch...home early from work, it's raining but duty calls...cycle or clambering over the north downs???   

Anonymous
Tue, 01/26/2010 - 19:50

What are your thoughts on water purifcation? I see the trip notes say take some, on previous trips exodus has used boiled water or iodine. Is anyone taking some?

Anonymous
Tue, 01/26/2010 - 19:51

Simon, welcome to the team!

Mike, as you’ve already applied for the visa would you mind helping me out with something. The application form is a bit confusing. What did you put in the field where it says “Address in Nepal”? Thanks

 

Ausra

Anonymous
Tue, 01/26/2010 - 19:55

Sorry guys, the message was supposed to look like this:

Simon, welcome to the team!

Mike, as you’ve already applied for the visa would you mind helping me out with something. The application form is a bit confusing. What did you put in the field where it says “Address in Nepal”? Thanks

Ausra

Anonymous
Tue, 01/26/2010 - 22:01

Hi Ausra,

I put "Hotel Royal Singhi in Kathmandu, and camping on trek" - I think that must have been OK, as the Nepalese embassy say my passport is on its way back to me, together with visa!  Maybe you might want to hold fire until I've actually got the visa, to see if that formula has worked?! Will let you know when it arrives. I've been in touch with them, because, having re-read the application notes after sending the form, passport, cheque  etc off, I realised that it said that they say they don't accept personal cheques, only postal orders and bank drafts . . . Ddohh! However, seems like they did cash my cheque though, so I guess it must be OK.

Sparkle - I'll be using iodine (with neutralisers or vitamin c tablets to get rid of the taste). I'm sure there will be a supply of boiled water whenever we stop, but in case we need to fill up in between, I'd rather have something with me. Did think about buying a Steripen, but I think my single-handed attempt to kick start the economy has probably gone far enough now, so I'll risk my thyroid rather than spend the extra money!

Having the first of my three rabies jabs tomorrow . . . Send me happy thoughts . . .

Cheers.

Mike

Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 07:41

Thanks Mike. Will wait for your post then :)

Karen, I'm taking chlorine tablets this time. I don't think iodin gets rid of the Gardia bacteria which is a nasty one. I am sure we will have boiled water on the trek but even then I was planning to use tablets anyway. Just to be on the safe side. In the books I read they warn about using a tap water and especially in Kathmandu. Even to brush your teeth.

 Ausra

Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 08:17

Where can I get the chlorine tabs from? 

Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 10:44

Hi Ausra - passport safely received back, with visa! So the wording for accommodation in Nepal must be OK. I guess they're not really that bothered . . .

Cheers.

Mike

Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 12:16

Great! Thanks Mike! Will send mine tomorrow :)

Hope you are feeling ok after your jabs.

Ausra

Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 22:12

Hi Karen,

if it's not too late and you've decided to buy chlorine tablets, make sure you are buying chlorine dioxide ones. Don't think normal chlorine tablest will kill all of the bacteria. Ausra

Anonymous
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 07:19

You re keen! I did Kili a few years ago...chilly! Good to have you onboard...yes imodium will be on my list, hope we don't have to use it too much! I am remembering Kili and it reminds me to take plenty of warm clothes.

I'm just off to clamber over the north downs before work..it's still dark! The things we do eh?

Love it though and just a bit excited!! 

Anonymous
Fri, 01/29/2010 - 21:41

hello everyone going to the high everest trek in nepal in march.i just recieved confirmation from exodus and just wanted to say hello.reading the trip notes and your comments from previous experiences has made me really excited about the trip and the preparation required even before departure.i look forward to meeting you all and look ahead to what for me will be an adventure experience of a lifetime.have a safe build up to march take care, karl. 

Anonymous
Sun, 01/31/2010 - 22:51

Seems our numbers are growing.  Mike, how long did the passport take ? I'm away on business and need mine, so can't sent it until I'm back.  Bit of a pain, that.  Did you send it registered ?

 

 

 

Anonymous

Hi Folks,

Welcome new arrivals! Looking forward to seeing this growing band get together in less than 7 weeks. Sounds like, if nothing else, a fair few of us will have Kili experience in common - I "did it" four years ago, via Shira route. I've done some daft physical things, but that was right up there as one of the most demanding . . . No, actually I think it was the most demanding . . . Well done Simone!

Steve - re visa, it only took just over a week from me posting-off my passport to getting it back - indeed, I sent it recorded delivery and you're required to provide them with a pre-paid "Special Delivery" envelope for its return. That said, don't know whether it will be any different if you're doing it from Ireland. Unlike me, do check carefully the accepted means of payment shown on the notes - they clearly don't really like personal cheques (though did accept mine). Bottom line though is that all the guidebooks and advice seem to suggest its no real problem to get the visa on arrival if its going to be a problem for you to do it before.

Keep on keeping on with the preparation everyone! Have fun.

Mike

Anonymous
Fri, 02/12/2010 - 11:31

I was wondering what currency are you taking with you - US$ or Sterling?
I think US dollars would work better in Nepal as they have 1$ notes… but was wondering what others are planning to do.

Not long now :)

Ausra

Anonymous
Fri, 02/12/2010 - 14:27

I was wondering the same question, in fact I was going to put a post on about this to see what everyone thinks but you beat me to it. I was reading the trip notes again last night and they seem to suggest that Sterling or US Dollars are fine. However, I am of the same opinion that US Dollars are probably a better bet. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Anonymous
Fri, 02/12/2010 - 16:21

Hello everyone!  Just found out about this thread and its useful to read through all the comments.

Concerning fitness for this trip, I have heard that long distance running is the best way to prepare - what are your views?

Regarding the last post, I would think that the US dollar is the safest currency off the beaten track.

Hákon Zimsen - Iceland

Anonymous
Fri, 02/12/2010 - 18:41

Do you think "plodding" helps with fitness, Hakon? I hope so, as I'm just back from a 6 mile plod - years ago I used to run, then I jogged, now I plod - it must be one of those irregular verbs . . .

Re currency, I think you're all right - the greenback still seems to be readily accepted most places on this planet.

Weekend well, y'all.

Mike

Anonymous
Sun, 02/14/2010 - 11:28

Whoops - wrong forum :)  See you guys later perhaps ;)

Anonymous
Sun, 02/14/2010 - 14:39

Hope you all are having a good weekend :)  Just had a go at packing everything for the trip... I know I know... it’s a bit too early. But I’m glad I did it. The time it took me to reduce the weight to 12 kg! Had to give up quite few things and changed some others to the lighter alternatives. Ended up with the main pack of 12 kg and a backpack of 4-5 kg for the first day trek. Hope that everyone else will do better.

All that's left now is to buy some US dollars :)

Have a good week everyone!!  Ausra

 

Anonymous
Mon, 02/15/2010 - 07:46

Well done Ausra for packing...I'm bearing it in mind. Did you pack your walking poles in the main pack or are you carrying them on the twin otter? I went shopping at weekend and got the chlorine tabs, high strength that kill gardia. By the way the book everyone was reading, Jamie Mcguiness, very informative about sickness...nearly finished me off before I get there! I've now skipped that bit and getting excited about the treking.

Managed to get thermal sleeping bag liner,  hopefully will increase warmth by 8degrees. Visa came back withing days but I did use special delivery. I'm eating bio yoghurt to line the gut with healthy bacteria and now thinking about what snacks to pack. Probably but them all and then find I have no room in my pack!

Hope all's well Karen

 

Anonymous
Mon, 02/15/2010 - 12:26

Hi Mike..thanks for the treking poles info...there are  probiotic tablets you can take, I understand it's best to start taking them a month before the trip and whilst away. You can get them in a chemist or health food shop. The idea is to promote lots of healthy bacteria in the gut, warding off harmful substances from entering.

I haven't got my kit bag yet and so will be interested in the new size,  however it's best for me that it may be smaller, the more room, the more I can pack!

I'm happy to do a guided tour or create one ourselves.

 Thanks for the info as always

Karen 

Anonymous
Mon, 02/15/2010 - 12:51

lol :) Mike, I am not always so organised. I just thought that it might be a good thing to do because of the weight limit. I remember packing for Kilimanjaro and they had 15 kg limit. Went over that limit of course. But this time we are flying so no other choice but to get it right. Don't want to be left behind :)

Re kitbag, haven't got mine yet so can't compare the size of it. I have a blue bag from the last time. I don't think we need to stick to whatever they send us. As long as it's a duffel bag.

Karen, good luck with packing all those snacks :) I reduced all my snacks to 2 high energy bars and that's it. Nothing else.

Re poles, I would prefer to have them inside, but wasn't sure whether this will be OK and what kind of regulations will apply. If I can get them inside, that's another 400g that I can use for something else :) maybe that thermal liner Karen mentioned :) I have one, but decided to take a two seasons down sleeping bag instead. I am sure that one sleeping bag won't be enough for me. I get very cold at night.

Re tour, I think I'll just wonder around. I don't like walking in the cities very much, so my plan is simple - to visit the most famous places, look around and relax for the rest of the day. Shame Exodus cancelled that tour. Must be a good reason why though.

Mike is right…. Only 31.5 days left :)
Have a good afternoon everyone!

Ausra

Anonymous
Mon, 02/15/2010 - 19:12

First of all apologies for my posts... before copying them over to this comments box they usually are in paragraphs... and somehow after saving they become this one massive block of words :/

Just got my bag, so here is an update on the size of it :) I think my old blue and a new black are identical in size :) black looks a bit smaller but I don't think it is. Not sure which one to take. Will see  what mood I will be in when packing for the trip :) By the way I am not sure what others are planning, but I am packing this kitbag and all my stuff to another bigger duffel bag so I can leave it at the hotel with all the things I do not need for the trek. I don't think it's possible to pack everything for the whole trip to the Exodus kitbag. Way too small.

Probiotic tablets - haven't occurred to me to try something like this. Will have a look. Thanks for mentioning this Karen. I am really worried about catching one of those nasty tummy bugs. I got some of the medication mentioned in the Jamie's book, but had some difficulties with my GP as they didn't know the dose. Had to read to them over the phone what the book said :) was quite funny. Was also interrogated at the Boots Pharmacy counter for why I am buying something like that... Other than that I think the biggest part of what I am taking is Ibuprofen. I am 100% sure that I will have a hell of a headache. Always do at the altitude.

31.1 days left ... :)

Ausra

Anonymous
Tue, 02/16/2010 - 09:43

Ausra - your enthusiasm is contagious! Please be sure to have plenty in reserve to share with us all for when the going gets tough! And you're right - the black kitbag is the same size as the old blue one - it just looks smaller! Maybe if I only bring black clothes, they will also look smaller and therefore make packing less scary . . .

Off to get some pro-biotic multi-vitamin tablets soon - had planned to use regualr multivitamins while away anyway, and presumably taking these before, during and after the trip at worst can't do any harm (and are easier to use, and for me more palatable, than yoghurts or whatever). Maybe we could have struck a sponsorship deal with some pro-biotic manufacturer?!

Karen - I do agree about the desirability of thinking just enough and not too much about all the health related stuff, and even the cold etc. Let's all plan for the worst and hope for the best, eh? Or if it gets really cold, let's hope for the vest . . . (sorry!)

I am now sufficiently excited about the trip for it to serve as a total distraction from everything else if I'm not careful so I'd better do some stuff here, to ensure I have a life to come back to after the trip!

Take care and have fun.

Mike

 

 

 

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